Solid Mashlib Data Browser


#1

I was wondering why everyone wants to make dashboard applications that are hard to view using the data browser? Is it that the Data Browser is obsolete, should we be using Chrome? Any thoughts?

I have been using it to show some things but I happen to think it would be great to include on homepages like here: https://portal.inrupt.net and https://portal.solid.community/

I sure would like to get some feedback on uses.


#2

for me, it is interesting that there is such a focus on Solid/Pod level browsing at all .

i think it is interesting from a developer perspective in interactively grasping the whole concept but it seems such developers are attempting to treat it as needing to be an end-user experience as well, which is what im skeptical of .

but from this perspective, i would certainly recommend that people look towards other in-so-far successful experiences, such as mobile devices + cloud, or also BlockStack id + Gaia, or etc .

what i mean here in some ways is that I dont think Solid / Pods is necessarily about trying to build a better experience regarding Windows Explorer or an FTP client or etc .


#3

Thanks for your response. What makes solid so special that no one will want to browse pods? People browse facebook profiles, twitter, instagram, and other social media profile based apps. So long as it’s username based, people will want certain usernames also, just as with other social media apps. I believe, as others do, that I know, who indicate that, there was a race to obtain high ranking keyword usernames, on most solid platforms. People by nature will propogate those pods with more than just linked data. They will also populate there homepages with things that they feel are important to them. I believe that people will search solid by usernames of subjects, topics, and things like that, to see if there is anything there they have an interest in. Could be just a document, or a product, a service or whatever.

So I am of the belief that solid will serve many uses. Some want to use it to serve up an application, some think their pod is an application, and it is because of the apps that are in it. Some think of it as their own personal data store, but for me, I think of it as the killer social media app.

Why? Because if it is all that Timbl said it could be, you will be able to sign into any of your other social media accounts with your WebID, directly from within your solid pod. You should be able to socially connect all of your contacts and friends into bundles to be used how you choose, once they are decoupled from the walled gardens. I hope that Solid colorizes the world of apps, and allows the users to have control over their data, and over the apps they use.

Imagine an app without a user. Apps need users, Solid also serves as an app repository, to store the apps you use, and for the ones you may want to use in the future.

Why did someone take the username https://KimKardashian.inrupt.net and https://KimKardashian.solid.community? https://tencent.inrupt.net https://china.inrupt.net https://china.solid.community

Why would people go through the hassle of reserving the most incredible usernames associated with addword keywords of the highest value if they did not see a value in it?

Most of all, why would there be a username blacklist if they were not important? https://github.com/solid/node-solid-server/pull/892/files By default Solid will not allow certain usernames as they might cause
confusion or allow vulnerabilies for social engineering
.
This list is configurable via config/usernames-blacklist.json. Solid does not
blacklist profanities by default.


#4

I think that in the short term, using pods in a similar way to Dropbox and co is a pretty promising use case for two main reasons. On the one hand, it is really useful in the current state where we sometimes have to manually upload/modify/fix files when developing and to inspect/fix other apps. On the other hand it also is attractive to new users, as it provides similar features to existing cloud services + easy interoperability with other apps. Also it gives them a view of the pod which they will likely need/want in the early phase where they aren’t that familiar with the concept and apps still have many bugs.


#5

definitely to both responses, I agree.

the main soul of my point is moreso a (ever-emerging-and-shifting) complexity of membrane between “architecture / specification” and “reference / implementation” and “developer tools” and “consumer / user products” etc .


#6

in my mind, the fact of people reserving popular / “fancy” URIs isn’t related to Solid per se, it’s orthogonal definitely .

that regards “human readability” and “opaqueness” and etc .

that’s all very cool that it’s happening !

what I’m mostly concerning my thought with in this post is separation of concerns and bounded contexts and applicability of the varying levels of architecture and specification and reference and implementation and consumption and usage and etc .