# Zero Data App / 0data.app

**URL:** <https://forum.solidproject.org/t/zero-data-app-0data-app/3658>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 8, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/zero-data-app-0data-app/3658 "2020-12-08T14:44:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 1\
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**Author:** ![rosano](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.solidproject.org/rosano/32/2106_2.png) [@rosano](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/rosano)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/zero-data-app-0data-app/3658/12 "2021-07-19T19:27:00Z")

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The recording is now online. @NoelDeMartin joined the discussion.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/574047168

| time | section |
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| 00:00 | [Intro](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=00m00s) |
| 01:50 | [Business models and challenges](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=01m50s) |
| 04:35 | [Steve: Does this make $300,000 a year?](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=04m35s) |
| 06:09 | [Mark: Is this profitable like SaaS?](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=06m09s) |
| 08:29 | [What are we selling?](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=08m29s) |
| 10:08 | [Basti: SaaS sells access to data](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=10m08s) |
| 10:49 | [Boris: What features does SaaS enable?](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=10m49s) |
| 12:25 | [Noel: What happens to data when apps stop working](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=12m25s) |
| 13:30 | [Lorenzo: Educating people about technical possibilities](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=13m30s) |
| 15:06 | [Boris: Movement building](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=15m06s) |
| 15:53 | [Boris: What does open-source mean?](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=15m53s) |
| 16:53 | [How does open-source change the dynamic?](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=16m53s) |
| 19:11 | [Rosano: What I want for people using my apps](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=19m11s) |
| 20:45 | [David: Beyond donations](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=20m45s) |
| 22:27 | [David: Doing feathers.js full-time](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=22m27s) |
| 24:31 | [Basti: Hosting the app versus the data](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=24m31s) |
| 27:17 | [Boris: People paying for convenience of not hosting](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=27m17s) |
| 28:39 | [Basti/Gyuri: The value of apps](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=28m39s) |
| 29:21 | [Sustaining projects less transactionally](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=29m21s) |
| 32:54 | [Lorenzo: Research on digital commons and peer production](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=32m54s) |
| 35:08 | [Boris: The impact of github.com on open-source culture](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=35m08s) |
| 36:02 | [David: Challenges in distributing collective funds](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=36m02s) |
| 37:53 | [David: Culture changes post Microsoft, Google, Facebook](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=37m53s) |
| 39:55 | [Basti: How Kosmos pays contributors with crypto](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=39m55s) |
| 44:05 | [Boris: The non-western world in open-source](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=44m05s) |
| 45:52 | [Boris: Bringing non-engineers into the fold](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=45m52s) |
| 47:16 | [David: Too much governance](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=47m16s) |
| 50:21 | [Boris: Directing dividends to makers automatically](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=50m21s) |
| 53:29 | [Rosano: Community-building](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=53m29s) |
| 55:13 | [Rosano: Looking for collaborators](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=55m13s) |
| 56:48 | [Gyuri: Leverage interoperability to create community](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=56m48s) |
| 57:57 | [Boris: Building movements together](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=57m57s) |
| 61:18 | [Interoperability challenges](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=61m18s) |
| 62:56 | [Lorenzo/Boris/Basti: Matrix recruiting their lead contributors](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=62m56s) |
| 67:10 | [Basti/Boris: Dangers of centralized influence in ecosystems](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=67m10s) |
| 73:16 | [Rosano: Calls to action](https://vimeo.com/574047168#t=73m16s) |

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