# Updates on spec-related activities in the forum **URL:** \ **Category:** Solid Specification\ **Created:** [May 26, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107 "2020-05-26T02:11:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![justin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.solidproject.org/justin/32/6_2.png) [@justin](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/justin)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/1 "2020-05-26T02:11:33Z")
Last week I created an [issue](https://github.com/solid/process/issues/202) in the [Solid Process](https://github.com/solid/process) repository aimed at looking for ways to improve the effectiveness of Solid Panels. While we got some good feedback on how to improve the panels, we also fielded some legitimate feedback that there’s not enough participation on this forum from those of us who are working directly on various parts of the specification. It’s true that we probably aren’t active enough in here. We’re spending most of our time working out of Github because that’s where the vast majority of authoring and editing is happening (and that work is time-consuming). That said, there are some good discussions happening in here that we could and should add to. Similarly, there are some good discussions happening in other places (like panels) that many of you could and should be contributing to as well. For starters, I think that we could start providing some updates in here related to spec-related activities. We’re already [capturing minutes](https://www.w3.org/community/solid/wiki/Meetings) on the W3CG wiki, but this forum is probably a better place than a wiki to have follow-on threaded discussions about some of the work in flight. I’m not exactly sure what the right amount of cross-posting is.If anyone has ideas, lets hear them 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![aschrijver](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.solidproject.org/aschrijver/32/463_2.png) [@aschrijver](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/aschrijver)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/2 "2020-05-26T04:09:19Z")
Nice to hear, @justin! It might be an idea to look into the Discourse git plugins on [meta.discourse.org](http://meta.discourse.org) for integrations to the forum (and vice versa). These could be real timesavers in keeping everyone informed and in sync. ---
**Author:** ![divoplade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@divoplade](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/divoplade)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/3 "2020-05-26T06:16:17Z")
Hello! This is good to know. I said quite a few stupid things here before I became aware that the auth panel was working on an update of the auth spec ([https://github.com/solid/authentication-panel/blob/master/oidc-authentication.md](https://github.com/solid/authentication-panel/blob/master/oidc-authentication.md)), for instance 😅 ---
**Author:** ![justin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.solidproject.org/justin/32/6_2.png) [@justin](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/justin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/4 "2020-05-27T00:45:07Z")
@divoplade How did you end up hearing about the authentication panel? Have you been able to join any live sessions? Are you following the minutes? You _should’ve_ been able to know about that work happening from the start, and I think that points to some issues we’ve got with making information available and easy to find. ---
**Author:** ![divoplade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@divoplade](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/divoplade)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/5 "2020-05-27T07:35:02Z")
Well, I started to search for webid authentication, and both Google and Wikipedia redirect to this document: [https://github.com/solid/webid-oidc-spec](https://github.com/solid/webid-oidc-spec) Side note: Wikipedia ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebID](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebID)) puts a lot of emphasis on the legacy webid-tls, which I think is not great to convince the non-solid web world that we are using the same tools as them, with oauth, oidc, tokens, … I would see some quick fixes: - wikipedia: put webid-tls in the bottom, say it is more like a legacy option because it requires certificates; - same page: add a note that it is being worked on by the panel; - (arguable, optional) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF\_(ontology):](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF_(ontology):) do not advertise webid+tls in the webid section; - [https://github.com/solid/webid-oidc-spec](https://github.com/solid/webid-oidc-spec) : add on top of the files a note about the panel. I guess it’s the same thing for all the other specs / panels. For instance, the WAC spec ([http://solid.github.io/web-access-control-spec](http://solid.github.io/web-access-control-spec)) could link to the [https://github.com/solid/authorization-and-access-control-panel](https://github.com/solid/authorization-and-access-control-panel) . There are frequent discussions about “how do I request a permission with my app?” that are asked here but in the scope of the authz panel, and I have the feeling that the WAC spec is read more than the authz panel draft [https://github.com/solid/authorization-and-access-control-panel/blob/master/privilege-request-protocol.md](https://github.com/solid/authorization-and-access-control-panel/blob/master/privilege-request-protocol.md) The first time I heard about the panel was on [Security Advisory: May 15, 2020](http://forum.solidproject.org/t/security-advisory-may-15-2020/3063) ---
**Author:** ![justin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.solidproject.org/justin/32/6_2.png) [@justin](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/justin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/6 "2020-05-27T12:32:51Z")
@divoplade Great insight - thank you. Did you spend any time on [solidproject.org](http://solidproject.org)? One of the things we need to look at is whether that site is helping people quickly get an understanding of solid and navigate them quickly based on what they’re looking for. So far the feedback has been mixed on that front. ---
**Author:** ![divoplade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@divoplade](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/divoplade)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/7 "2020-05-27T12:58:59Z")
I think I visited an older version of this, in which the app development tutorial started by using yeoman (I did not like how it asked me to send data from my development machine). Anyways, I am not really the ideal target developer: I had some experience with programming, but no experience in web development (I have since read the Mozilla JS guide, which was very helpful I think, but I’ve yet to understand all the frontend work with react, angular, typescript and such). And I already knew a few bits about linked data. ---
**Author:** ![aschrijver](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.solidproject.org/aschrijver/32/463_2.png) [@aschrijver](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/aschrijver)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/8 "2020-05-27T13:36:57Z")
@justin you have probably seen it, but it is a long thread. I wrote about what I expect on solid project website here [Solid scope and ecosystem](http://forum.solidproject.org/t/solid-scope-and-ecosystem/3100/15?u=aschrijver) and a bit later on in detail on how terminology is confusing. I think wrt the website reading onwards from that post gives some good feedback. ---
**Author:** ![justin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.solidproject.org/justin/32/6_2.png) [@justin](https://forum.solidproject.org/u/justin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/updates-on-spec-related-activities-in-the-forum/3107/9 "2020-05-27T13:51:52Z")
> [@aschrijver](#): > > @justin you have probably seen it, but it is a long thread. I wrote about what I expect on solid project website here [Solid scope and ecosystem](http://forum.solidproject.org/t/solid-scope-and-ecosystem/3100/15) and a bit later on in detail on how terminology is confusing. I think wrt the website reading onwards from that post gives some good feedback. Yup I have - it’s great feedback 🙂 Hoping to get feedback from as many people as possible to surface frequently recurring patterns.